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Corcorino Profil: Penguin | It's not for me, it's again for another friend  OK, so let's take an example of RAM, for example 96 RAMs and um... and for drive C: 5906 MB avaible. Now, the initial size must something like 144MB and the maximum size 288. What's the recomandation for this example, what number should I put in Initial Size and the Maximus Size boxes? | |
poiru Profil: Moderator | Corcorino wrote :
I have 2500 MB of ram so... Anyway, what's the recommended paging file?
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Reccomended page file size is (if I remember correct) about 1.5 x amout of RAM, which in your case would be: 1.5 x 2500 = 3750MB. [and this, if I remember correct, is for systems over 512MB RAM) But, you will probably not need that much, so I guess about 2-3 GB ought to be enough. If he only has 96MB RAM, I suggest you put the page file to atleast around 1GB. But, anyway, if he really has only 96MB of RAM, he should dump that computer (or buy more RAM) | |
uttaresh The Penguin Master Profil: Penguin Pro | I don't think you can even install Windows on any system with below 100MB of RAM. And Legace, that "recommended" size (1.5 to 2 times) is just a myth. It depends from person to person, and from computer to computer. A graphics designer needs at least a few GB, while an ordinary person may need as little as 100MB. One way of finding out the recommended Page File is to start up ALL the programs you normally run on your system, then go to the Performance tab of the Task Manager. Check the current Page File memory Usage. If it's almost full, you need to increase it. Keep increasing the Page File till it only reaches to about 25% to 50% of the top. But of course, if your computer is outdated... running all programs at once can crash it. So, instead of slowly INCREASING the Page File from its original value... set it to an insane amount (like 2GB), and then DECREASE it till you get to the right amount. | |
uttaresh The Penguin Master Profil: Penguin Pro | Now you may think I'm exaggerating, but look at my Page File usage with just Photoshop and Flash open. And no, I don't have Norton installed. As you can see, there's 1.2GB of RAM + 1.53GB of Page File in usage. Even my dual core processors are running at more than 50% capacity. Had my Page File been set to just 1GB instead of 6GB ... my PC would have either crashed, or slowed down to the pace of a tortoise on coke. | |
Corcorino Profil: Penguin | Lol, I know, he'll buy a new computer soon. Anyways, in his PF usage box I see 182 MB( He only opened the brower) and I think it's bad, here's a pic: So, what do you recommend him for this? ( Sorry, I'm not a computer expert... ) And sorry for making you to download this. | |
Corcorino Profil: Penguin | He changed to 1046 and 2088... I think it's good but now he has low memory space for C:. it will be the samething if he does this for D:? | |
uttaresh The Penguin Master Profil: Penguin Pro | Actually, you can pick the Page File from any drive. Even if you pick 256MB from C and 256MB from D, it will function as ONE page file of 512 MB for all drives.  Judging from that memory usage graph, if he really is just using a browser right now... I would recommend using 512MB of Page File minimum and 1GB maximum. Again, that's the combined Page File size. You can set the C drive page file to 256 min and 512 max and the same amount for D drive. | |
Corcorino Profil: Penguin | Hmm, I changed the initial size for C to 1046mb and the maximum to 2088 mb... I hope it's fine. Whenever I try to change to D like in C I get a message like this : 'Another file exists with the filename D:\pagefile.sys . Help, please? Also, will this make his computer to work faster? And please tell me if I did the right thing for C | |
uttaresh The Penguin Master Profil: Penguin Pro | Yes, your Page File for C drive is OK. "Another file exists with the filename D:\pagefile.sys" Do you have multiple operating systems installed, by any chance? If not, then you can just delete it. Here's how: Open up D drive in My Computer. Go to Tools>>Folder Options. Then select the View tab on top. Deselect the option: Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) Click Yes in the pop up window. Then click OK. You can now see the pagefile.sys in D drive. Simply delete it. Then go back to Tools>>Folder Options>>View and reselect the option: Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) Click OK. Restart your computer and reset the page file for D from Control Panel, just like you did for C drive. 
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Corcorino Profil: Penguin | Is it OK to delete it? And will the Page File thingy make his computer to work faster? And also, is 1046 and 2088 good or 512 and 1GB is better? And sorry for too many questions, but what happens if I have multiple operating systems installed? | |
uttaresh The Penguin Master Profil: Penguin Pro | Well, you can still delete it. However, your Page File can only be managed by one OS. So, if you use XP to control the page file for D, then you can ONLY use XP for changing it. And yes, it is safe to delete it (for the D drive) as it'll automatically be re-created once you set its size. Naturally, the more page file you have the better ... just in case your system needs more at times. So having 1046 and 2088 would be better than 512 and 1GB. But like you said, you have less hard disk space. So I'd go with 512 and 1GB. Page File, or Virtual Memory, works as an extra RAM on your hard drive. All the functions that are running, but not being used at the moment, are stored in your page file. Let's say you have 3 Word Documents open. At a time, however, you can only use one. So, the other two will unnecessarily take up RAM even though they are not being used. But if you have enough Page File, the system automatically shifts the two inactive files into the page file .... hence freeing up RAM. So increasing the Page File means that your computer won't ran as slowly as it does when a lot of programs are open. It won't get stuck as easily. But no, it doesn't increase the CPU's base speed. I hope this answers all your questions.  | |
Corcorino Profil: Penguin | Yep, thanks a lot, my friend thanks you too  | |
poiru Profil: Moderator | By the way, try CCleaner (www.ccleaner.com). You might also want to remove old system restore points: http://www.winxptutor.com/srclear.htm These steps might clean well over 3-4GB of junk from the PC  | |
Corcorino Profil: Penguin | Thanks, but it takes sooooo long  | |
poiru Profil: Moderator | Yeah, I know, but its worth it.. Your friend will be better off with 10GB over 5GB  | |
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